The Second Death

In thinking about the “second death” consider the following:

Were the Old Testament sacrifices a picture of God’s wrath against sin? And were the sacrifices tormented or killed?

Does the Law reveal God’s standard of justice? There are many crimes in the Law for which the punishment is death, are there any crimes for which the penalty is perpetual imprisonment under torture?

If the penalty of sin is eternal conscious torment where is this first spelled out in Scripture? If it is not clearly spelled out right from the beginning how does this reflect upon the justice of God?

Is it not true that from beginning to end the Bible puts forth the question of eternal destiny as a question of life and death, not a question of life in one place as opposed to life in another?

Sober reflection will lead one to the conclusion that the penalty for sin was only ever death as shown by the fate of the sacrifices, by the fact that the death penalty was the most extreme punishment and by the fact that the Bible does not from the very beginning put forth the idea of a life in perpetual torment as the penalty for sin. The question of eternal destiny is indeed a question of life or death.

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2 Responses to The Second Death

  1. brando Bobier says:


    The doom that awaits the wicked dead is the second death – the lake of fire [Rev. 20:12 – 15]. All liars, unbelieving, idolaters etc. are destined to it [Rev. 21:8] and anything that worked abominations [Rev. 21:27] and not found written in the book of life [Rev. 20:15] will be cast into the lake of fire. There is no indication that they will not be hurt by the Lake of Fire.

    Traditionalists asserted that “man’s soul is created and SUSTAINED BY GOD IN HELL” that “God will RAISES THE BODIES OF THE DAMNED AND PRESERVE THEM TO ENDURE EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT…PRESERVE BY THE POWER OF GOD in order to endure punishment that it is to receive.Yet there is no proof that God will sustained miraculously intervene for these, as he once did for Daniel’s three friends, to keep them alive.

    May we not suppose, then that this “fiery furnace” does to its victims precisely what the of Shadrach Meschach, Abednego hope theirs would do to them? [Dan. 3:15 – 27], unless God intervenes, where is any hope? Certainly no other God can save such a fate! [Dan. 3:15, 28]

    Let us quote a few passages which teach in similar language – a similar truth of the fate of the wicked :

    As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this word…
    And shall cast them into a furnace of fire… [Matt. 13:40, 42, 49]

    “Every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” Luke 3:9 ; Matt. 3:10’ 7:19

    “He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” Matt. 3:12; Luke 3:17

    “If a man abide not I n me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6

    What happen to a tree when it is cast into the fire? It will burn up. Why it is burned up?Because when the fire is applied to it; carried out its function – ignited to burn trash, to destroy that which is burned for the purpose of elimination. The tares are gathered and burned in the fire. Again can we force “burned” into a meaning “exist forever?” There is nothing to lead us to expect that those cast into the furnace of fire will be preserved in it as Shadrach, Meschach and Abednego were.

    To understand what God intends by the word “fire”, wherever He has prescribed it either for judgment or in sacrifices designed to propitiate His wrath against human sin is described by action verbs of the same ultimate meaning, whether in Hebrew or in Greek, e.g. “burnt with fire’, “consumed,””devoured,” “destroyed” (see Gen. 19:24;22:6-7; Ex. 12:8-10; Lev. 19:6;1 Kings 18:38; Dan. 3:22-27; Deut. 4:24)

  2. brando Bobier says:


    The question of “Who are the ones that will not be hurt by the second Death?” Both the Traditionalists and Conditionalists may all correctly answer: “The Redeemed, the Righteous, the Believer etc.” We read in Rev. 2:11 the promises given to the Church of Smyrna who was not only assured of “the crown of life”, but that he would not be “hurt” by the second death .The authorized version translators may have been influenced by such passages as:

    “Lo, I see four men loose walking in the midst of the fire and they have no hurt.” [Dan 3:25]

    “So Daniel was taken up out of the den and no manner of hurt was found upon him.” [Dan 6:23]

    Taking, the illustration found in the book of Daniel , the overweening pride of Nebuchadnezzar left the three friends of Daniel no alternative but to disobey his commands even though the consequence of disobedience was to be cast into a “burning fiery furnace.” [Dan 3: 12 – 17]

    To ensure their destruction Nebuchadnezzar commanded that the furnace be heated seven times more that was wont [Dan 3:19] and so vehement was its flame that the men who took up the faithful three were themselves instantly slain [Dan. 3:22], but Shadrach Meschach ad Abednego, though they fell down bound in the midst of such a fiery furnace were seen walking unscathed together with one like unto the son of God, and as Nebuchadnezzar admitted, “they have not hurt.”

    What is meant by having “no hurt” is made clear in Dan. 3:27:

    “These men upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.”

    Hence only that which is holy and precious will survive. Isaiah assumed the believer of this immunity when he wrote: “when Thou walked through the fire, Thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.” [Isa. 43:2].

    That is what we meant when we used the word asbestos for the perfect immunity of the believer “in Christ.” Paul writing to the Corinthians makes it very clear, that those who are building upon the one foundation, namely Christ, while never in danger of “being lost”, might “suffer loss but he himself shall be save; yet so as by fire.” [1 Cor. 3:12 – 15]

    It is to the redeemed that was promised. He . . . shall not be hurt of the second death” [Rev. 2:11], a promise that is fulfilled in Rev. 20:6, for those who “reign” with Christ for the thousand years are said to be blessed and holy; they are said to be priest of God and of Christ, and on SUCH THE SECOND DEATH HAD NO POWER.

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